Lung NeoplasmsCREATORNCT05358158
Chest dRain rEmoval intrAoperatively afTer thoracOscopic Wedge Resection
A study testing Intraoperative air leak test, Intraoperative chest drain removal and Standard chest drain placement in people with Lung Neoplasms and Lung Surgery, run by Copenhagen University Hospital, Rigshospitalet at 2 sites in Denmark.
Trial summary
Chest drain is used routinely after lung surgery. Despite preliminary studies demonstrate the feasibility and safety of intraoperative chest drain removal, these are either retrospective or mainly concerning benign disease. Read more about this study
- Who is it for?
- Ages 18 years and older
- Conditions the study is for
- Lung Neoplasms, Lung Surgery, Enhanced Recovery After Surgery
- What is being tested?
- Intraoperative air leak test, Intraoperative chest drain removal and Standard chest drain placement
- Type of treatment
- Surgery or procedure
- Could I receive a placebo?
- No, everyone receives an active treatment
- How many people
- 94 participants
- Where
- 2 sitesDenmark
- Study dates
- 4 May 2022to 17 Mar 2024
- Phase
- Interventional
- Are there results?
- None posted in the registry
Key requirements
Who can take part, as listed by the sponsor. Only the study team can confirm whether you are eligible, so take this list to your doctor.
- Ages 18 years and older
- All sexes
- No healthy volunteers
- Adult, Older adult
Who may be able to join
- Age ≥18 years.
- Patients referred for elective three port video-assisted thoracoscopic surgery wedge resection of the lung for suspected or confirmed malignant nodules.
- first second forced expiratory volume ≥60% of expected.
- No increased bleeding risk (e.g. preoperative international normalized ratio >2, overdue discontinuation of anticoagulants according to guidelines by the Danish Society for Thrombosis and Haemostasis, known coagulopathy).
- Not scheduled for frozen section pathology of wedge resection and subsequent lobectomy.
- Able and willing to give informed consent.
Who cannot join
- Increased risk of post-operative air leak assessed perioperatively by the surgeon (e.g. severe adhesions, bullous/emphysematous lung tissue, defects of the visceral pleura due to iatrogenic or other reasons, suturing in the lung tissue, deep lung resection).
- Increased risk of post-operative bleeding assessed perioperatively by the surgeon (e.g. intraoperative bleeding or oozing).
- Air leak during intraoperative air leak test.
Trial locations and contacts
2 sites in 1 country.
Denmark2 sites
Thomas Decker Christensen
Aarhus, Aarhus N, 8200
Rigshospitalet
Copenhagen, 2100
About this study
Official title: Efficacy of Avoiding Chest Drain After Video-assisted Thoracoscopic Surgery Wedge Resection
Chest drain is used routinely after lung surgery. Despite preliminary studies demonstrate the feasibility and safety of intraoperative chest drain removal, these are either retrospective or mainly concerning benign disease.
Hypothesis: Participants treated without post-operative chest tube after thoracoscopic wedge resection have less pain, reduced opioid usage without increasing postoperative complications than participants treated with standard post-operative chest tube, and could possibly be discharged earlier.
- Conditions
- Lung Neoplasms, Lung Surgery, Enhanced Recovery After Surgery, Fast-track Surgery, Pain, Opioid Use
- Being tested
- Intraoperative air leak test, Intraoperative chest drain removal, Standard chest drain placement
- Medical subject headings
- Lung Neoplasms, Pain
What participants receive
What participants receive. In a randomised study each person is assigned to one group by chance.
Intraoperative air leak testProcedure or surgery
A standard 28 Fr chest drain is inserted through the anterior port hole with all port holes closed. With the tip of the chest tube below water, the pleura is emptied from air during continuous ventilation of the lungs. An air leak after 5 minutes of ventilation indicates a negative sealing test, whereas a cessation of air leak within 5 minutes indicates a positive sealing test.
Intraoperative chest drain removalProcedure or surgery
Chest drain is removed intraoperatively.
Standard chest drain placementProcedure or surgery
Chest drain is left in pleura.
| Study group | Role | What they receive |
|---|---|---|
| Drain-free group | Experimental | Participants undergoing video-assisted thoracoscopic wedge resection with a positive intraoperative sealing test are treated with intraoperative chest tube removal. Receives: Procedure: Intraoperative air leak test; Procedure: Intraoperative chest drain removal |
| Chest drain group | Active comparator | Participants undergoing video-assisted thoracoscopic wedge resection with a positive intraoperative sealing test are treated with a standard postoperative chest tube. Receives: Procedure: Intraoperative air leak test; Procedure: Standard chest drain placement |
What is being measured
The primary outcome is the main question the study is designed to answer.
Acute Pain
Postoperative pain assessed in three different situations (at rest, arms lifted and during cough) by questionnaire at 3 and 6 hours after surgery, and on the morning of postoperative day 1 at 8 a.m
Measured: Up to postoperative day 1
Rescue analgesics
The amount of rescue analgesics given assessed as cumulative amount of morphine during the first 24 hours after surgery milligram equivalents (MME) as defined by pro.medicine.dk hosted by the Danish Association of the Pharmaceutical Industry
Measured: Up to postoperative day 1
Secondary outcomes (9)
Pneumothorax
Number and size of pneumothorax at 6 hours after surgery in the drain-free group, 2 hours after drain removal in the drain group, and postoperative 2-week for both
Measured: Up to postoperative 2 weeks
Complications
Surgical and medical complications including mortality
Measured: Up to postoperative day 30
Chest drain reinsertion
Number and reasons of chest drain reinsertion
Measured: Up to postoperative day 30
Length of stay
Days in hospital after index surgery
Measured: Through post-operative discharge, an average of 2 days
Time to fulfilled discharge criteria
Days to meet discharge criteria but stay in hospital
Measured: Through post-operative discharge, an average of 2 days
Readmission
Number and reasons of readmissions
Measured: Through post-operative admission, an average of 7 days
Quality of recovery after surgery
Evaluate patients' quality of life by questionnaire before surgery, at the first day after surgery
Measured: Up to postoperative day 1
Standard analgesics given
Number of patients who did not receive planned postoperative analgesics according to the standards at their institution
Measured: Up to postoperative 2 weeks
Persistent pain
Postoperative pain assessed in three different situations (at rest, arms lifted and during cough) by questionnaire from postoperative day 2 to 6.
Measured: Up to postoperative day 6
Timeline
From the start of the study to its completion; the mark is today. Estimated dates are the sponsor’s plan.
- First posted3 May 2022
- Study start4 May 2022
- Primary completion17 Mar 2024
- Study completion17 Mar 2024
Resources
- Official record on ClinicalTrials.govThe registry entry this page is built from, with its full change history.
- Publications (28)Papers the sponsor has linked to this study.
- Other trials for Lung NeoplasmsStudies of the same condition, open and under way.
- More trials run by Copenhagen University Hospital, RigshospitaletThe sponsor's other registered studies.
- What the trial phases meanHow a treatment moves from first tests in people to approval.
More details
For doctors and researchers: how the study is designed, who runs it, and its registry IDs.
Study design
- Study type
- Interventional
- Phase
- Phase N/A
- Primary purpose
- Treatment
- Allocation
- Randomised
- Intervention model
- Parallel groups
- Masking
- None (open label)
- Enrolment
- 94 participants (actual)
Sponsor and investigators
- Lead sponsor
- Copenhagen University Hospital, Rigshospitalet
- Sponsor type
- University, hospital or other
- Collaborators
- Aarhus University Hospital
- Responsible party
- Principal investigator, Lin Huang, Copenhagen University Hospital, Rigshospitalet
- Investigators
- René H Petersen, MD, PhD, Study chair, Copenhagen University Hospital, RigshospitaletThomas D Christensen, MD, PhD, Study director, Aarhus University HospitalBo L Holbek, MD, PhD, Principal investigator, Copenhagen University Hospital, RigshospitaletMorten Bendixen, MD, PhD, Principal investigator, Aarhus University HospitalJonas J Rasmussen, MD, Principal investigator, Aarhus University HospitalHenrik Kehlet, MD, PhD, Principal investigator, Copenhagen University Hospital, RigshospitaletHenrik J Hansen, MD, Principal investigator, Copenhagen University Hospital, Rigshospitalet
IDs, dates and publications
- ClinicalTrials.gov ID
- NCT05358158
- Sponsor's protocol ID
- H-21012837
- Acronym
- CREATOR
- Status last verified
- Mar 2024
- First submitted
- 28 Apr 2022
- Last updated
- 20 Mar 2024
- Results posted
- No
- Data monitoring committee
- Yes
- FDA-regulated drug
- No
- FDA-regulated device
- No
- Individual data sharing
- Yes: All IPD that underlie results in a publication are planned to share to other researchers if they connect with the corresponding author of the publication.
Publications
Cerfolio RJ, Bryant AS. The management of chest tubes after pulmonary resection. Thorac Surg Clin. 2010 Aug;20(3):399-405. doi: 10.1016/j.thorsurg.2010.04.001.
PubMed 20619231Luckraz H, Rammohan KS, Phillips M, Abel R, Karthikeyan S, Kulatilake NE, O'Keefe PA. Is an intercostal chest drain necessary after video-assisted thoracoscopic (VATS) lung biopsy? Ann Thorac Surg. 2007 Jul;84(1):237-9. doi: 10.1016/j.athoracsur.2007.03.007.
PubMed 17588421Holbek BL, Horsleben Petersen R, Kehlet H, Hansen HJ. Fast-track video-assisted thoracoscopic surgery: future challenges. Scand Cardiovasc J. 2016;50(2):78-82. doi: 10.3109/14017431.2015.1114665. Epub 2015 Dec 1.
PubMed 26514281Refai M, Brunelli A, Salati M, Xiume F, Pompili C, Sabbatini A. The impact of chest tube removal on pain and pulmonary function after pulmonary resection. Eur J Cardiothorac Surg. 2012 Apr;41(4):820-2; discussion 823. doi: 10.1093/ejcts/ezr126. Epub 2011 Dec 21.
PubMed 22219425Mao M, Hughes R, Papadimos TJ, Stawicki SP. Complications of chest tubes: a focused clinical synopsis. Curr Opin Pulm Med. 2015 Jul;21(4):376-86. doi: 10.1097/MCP.0000000000000169.
PubMed 26016583Bardell T, Petsikas D. What keeps postpulmonary resection patients in hospital? Can Respir J. 2003 Mar;10(2):86-9. doi: 10.1155/2003/610570.
PubMed 12693389Wildgaard K, Petersen RH, Hansen HJ, Moller-Sorensen H, Ringsted TK, Kehlet H. Multimodal analgesic treatment in video-assisted thoracic surgery lobectomy using an intraoperative intercostal catheter. Eur J Cardiothorac Surg. 2012 May;41(5):1072-7. doi: 10.1093/ejcts/ezr151. Epub 2011 Dec 21.
PubMed 22219442Watanabe A, Watanabe T, Ohsawa H, Mawatari T, Ichimiya Y, Takahashi N, Sato H, Abe T. Avoiding chest tube placement after video-assisted thoracoscopic wedge resection of the lung. Eur J Cardiothorac Surg. 2004 May;25(5):872-6. doi: 10.1016/j.ejcts.2004.01.041.
PubMed 15082297Koc T, Routledge T, Chambers A, Scarci M. Do patients undergoing lung biopsy need a postoperative chest drain at all? Interact Cardiovasc Thorac Surg. 2010 Jun;10(6):1022-5. doi: 10.1510/icvts.2010.232892. Epub 2010 Mar 22.
PubMed 20308263Holbek BL, Hansen HJ, Kehlet H, Petersen RH. Thoracoscopic pulmonary wedge resection without post-operative chest drain: an observational study. Gen Thorac Cardiovasc Surg. 2016 Oct;64(10):612-7. doi: 10.1007/s11748-016-0692-6. Epub 2016 Aug 10.
PubMed 27510705Park JB, Hwang JJ, Lee WS, Kim YH, Lee SA. Postoperative chest tube placement after thoracoscopic wedge resection of lung for primary spontaneous pneumothorax: is it mandatory? J Thorac Dis. 2018 Aug;10(8):4812-4818. doi: 10.21037/jtd.2018.07.13.
PubMed 30233854Liao HC, Yang SM, Hung MH, Cheng YJ, Hsu HH, Chen JS. Thoracoscopic Surgery Without Drainage Tube Placement for Peripheral Lung Nodules. Ann Thorac Surg. 2020 Mar;109(3):887-893. doi: 10.1016/j.athoracsur.2019.10.048. Epub 2019 Dec 13.
PubMed 31843633Lesser T, Doenst T, Lehmann T, Mukdessi J. Lung Bioposy Without Pleural Drainage. Dtsch Arztebl Int. 2019 May 10;116(19):329-334. doi: 10.3238/arztebl.2019.0329.
PubMed 31288906Schulz KF, Altman DG, Moher D; CONSORT Group. CONSORT 2010 Statement: updated guidelines for reporting parallel group randomised trials. Trials. 2010 Mar 24;11:32. doi: 10.1186/1745-6215-11-32.
PubMed 20334632Altman DG, Bland JM. Statistics notes: the normal distribution. BMJ. 1995 Feb 4;310(6975):298. doi: 10.1136/bmj.310.6975.298. No abstract available.
PubMed 7866172
Study at a glance
From the registry record, last updated by the sponsor on 20 Mar 2024. Recruitment status is as the sponsor reported it: confirm with the study team.
- Official title
- Efficacy of Avoiding Chest Drain After Video-assisted Thoracoscopic Surgery Wedge Resection
- ClinicalTrials.gov ID
- NCT05358158
- Acronym / sponsor ID
- CREATOR / H-21012837
- Conditions
- Lung Neoplasms, Lung Surgery, Enhanced Recovery After Surgery, Fast-track Surgery, Pain, Opioid Use
- Study type
- Interventional
- Recruitment status
- Completed
- Enrolment
- 94 participants (actual)
- Lead sponsor
- Copenhagen University Hospital, RigshospitaletUniversity, hospital or other
- Collaborators
- Aarhus University Hospital
- Study start
- 4 May 2022 (actual)
- Primary completion
- 17 Mar 2024 (actual)
- Study completion
- 17 Mar 2024 (actual)
- First posted
- 3 May 2022 (actual)
- Results
- Not posted in the source record
Clinical summary
The research question as the sponsor registered it. This describes what the study plans to test, not what it found.
Chest drain is used routinely after lung surgery. Despite preliminary studies demonstrate the feasibility and safety of intraoperative chest drain removal, these are either retrospective or mainly concerning benign disease.
Hypothesis: Participants treated without post-operative chest tube after thoracoscopic wedge resection have less pain, reduced opioid usage without increasing postoperative complications than participants treated with standard post-operative chest tube, and could possibly be discharged earlier.
Study design
- Primary purpose
- Treatment
- Allocation
- Randomised
- Intervention model
- Parallel groups
- Masking
- None (open label)
- Number of arms
- 2
| Arm | Type | Receives |
|---|---|---|
| Drain-free group | Experimental | Procedure: Intraoperative air leak test, Procedure: Intraoperative chest drain removalParticipants undergoing video-assisted thoracoscopic wedge resection with a positive intraoperative sealing test are treated with intraoperative chest tube removal. |
| Chest drain group | Active comparator | Procedure: Intraoperative air leak test, Procedure: Standard chest drain placementParticipants undergoing video-assisted thoracoscopic wedge resection with a positive intraoperative sealing test are treated with a standard postoperative chest tube. |
Who may qualify
- Ages
- 18 years and older
- Sex
- All
- Healthy volunteers
- Not accepted
- Age groups
- Adult, Older adult
Key inclusion criteria (6 listed)
- Age ≥18 years.
- Patients referred for elective three port video-assisted thoracoscopic surgery wedge resection of the lung for suspected or confirmed malignant nodules.
- first second forced expiratory volume ≥60% of expected.
- No increased bleeding risk (e.g. preoperative international normalized ratio >2, overdue discontinuation of anticoagulants according to guidelines by the Danish Society for Thrombosis and Haemostasis, known coagulopathy).
- Not scheduled for frozen section pathology of wedge resection and subsequent lobectomy.
Key exclusion criteria (3 listed)
- Increased risk of post-operative air leak assessed perioperatively by the surgeon (e.g. severe adhesions, bullous/emphysematous lung tissue, defects of the visceral pleura due to iatrogenic or other reasons, suturing in the lung tissue, deep lung resection).
- Increased risk of post-operative bleeding assessed perioperatively by the surgeon (e.g. intraoperative bleeding or oozing).
- Air leak during intraoperative air leak test.
Eligibility is decided by the study team after screening; this overview does not establish that a patient qualifies. Full inclusion and exclusion criteria.
Interventions
| Intervention | Type | Arms |
|---|---|---|
| Intraoperative air leak testA standard 28 Fr chest drain is inserted through the anterior port hole with all port holes closed. With the tip of the chest tube below water, the pleura is emptied from air during continuous ventilation of the lungs. An air leak after 5 minutes of ventilation indicates a negative sealing test, whereas a cessation of air leak within 5 minutes indicates a positive sealing test. | Procedure or surgery | Chest drain group, Drain-free group |
| Intraoperative chest drain removalChest drain is removed intraoperatively. | Procedure or surgery | Drain-free group |
| Standard chest drain placementChest drain is left in pleura. | Procedure or surgery | Chest drain group |
Primary outcome
Acute Pain
Time frame: Up to postoperative day 1
Postoperative pain assessed in three different situations (at rest, arms lifted and during cough) by questionnaire at 3 and 6 hours after surgery, and on the morning of postoperative day 1 at 8 a.m
Rescue analgesics
Time frame: Up to postoperative day 1
The amount of rescue analgesics given assessed as cumulative amount of morphine during the first 24 hours after surgery milligram equivalents (MME) as defined by pro.medicine.dk hosted by the Danish Association of the Pharmaceutical Industry
9 secondary outcomes
Pneumothorax
Time frame: Up to postoperative 2 weeks
Complications
Time frame: Up to postoperative day 30
Chest drain reinsertion
Time frame: Up to postoperative day 30
Length of stay
Time frame: Through post-operative discharge, an average of 2 days
Time to fulfilled discharge criteria
Time frame: Through post-operative discharge, an average of 2 days
Readmission
Time frame: Through post-operative admission, an average of 7 days
Quality of recovery after surgery
Time frame: Up to postoperative day 1
Standard analgesics given
Time frame: Up to postoperative 2 weeks
Persistent pain
Time frame: Up to postoperative day 6
Results and safety
The study is completed, but results are not available in the source record. That does not mean the treatment did or did not work.
Research links
- Official record on ClinicalTrials.govLast updated by the sponsor 20 Mar 2024.
- Results publication: PubMed 20619231Cerfolio RJ, Bryant AS. The management of chest tubes after pulmonary resection. Thorac Surg Clin. 2010 Aug;20(3):399-405. doi: 10.1016/j.thorsurg.2010.04.001.
- Results publication: PubMed 17588421Luckraz H, Rammohan KS, Phillips M, Abel R, Karthikeyan S, Kulatilake NE, O'Keefe PA. Is an intercostal chest drain necessary after video-assisted thoracoscopic (VATS) lung biopsy? Ann Thorac Surg. 2007 Jul;84(1):237-9. doi: 10.1016/j.athoracsur.2007.03.007.
- Results publication: PubMed 26514281Holbek BL, Horsleben Petersen R, Kehlet H, Hansen HJ. Fast-track video-assisted thoracoscopic surgery: future challenges. Scand Cardiovasc J. 2016;50(2):78-82. doi: 10.3109/14017431.2015.1114665. Epub 2015 Dec 1.
- Results publication: PubMed 22219425Refai M, Brunelli A, Salati M, Xiume F, Pompili C, Sabbatini A. The impact of chest tube removal on pain and pulmonary function after pulmonary resection. Eur J Cardiothorac Surg. 2012 Apr;41(4):820-2; discussion 823. doi: 10.1093/ejcts/ezr126. Epub 2011 Dec 21.
- Results publication: PubMed 26016583Mao M, Hughes R, Papadimos TJ, Stawicki SP. Complications of chest tubes: a focused clinical synopsis. Curr Opin Pulm Med. 2015 Jul;21(4):376-86. doi: 10.1097/MCP.0000000000000169.
- Results publication: PubMed 12693389Bardell T, Petsikas D. What keeps postpulmonary resection patients in hospital? Can Respir J. 2003 Mar;10(2):86-9. doi: 10.1155/2003/610570.
- Results publication: PubMed 22219442Wildgaard K, Petersen RH, Hansen HJ, Moller-Sorensen H, Ringsted TK, Kehlet H. Multimodal analgesic treatment in video-assisted thoracic surgery lobectomy using an intraoperative intercostal catheter. Eur J Cardiothorac Surg. 2012 May;41(5):1072-7. doi: 10.1093/ejcts/ezr151. Epub 2011 Dec 21.
- Results publication: PubMed 15082297Watanabe A, Watanabe T, Ohsawa H, Mawatari T, Ichimiya Y, Takahashi N, Sato H, Abe T. Avoiding chest tube placement after video-assisted thoracoscopic wedge resection of the lung. Eur J Cardiothorac Surg. 2004 May;25(5):872-6. doi: 10.1016/j.ejcts.2004.01.041.
- Results publication: PubMed 20308263Koc T, Routledge T, Chambers A, Scarci M. Do patients undergoing lung biopsy need a postoperative chest drain at all? Interact Cardiovasc Thorac Surg. 2010 Jun;10(6):1022-5. doi: 10.1510/icvts.2010.232892. Epub 2010 Mar 22.
- Results publication: PubMed 27510705Holbek BL, Hansen HJ, Kehlet H, Petersen RH. Thoracoscopic pulmonary wedge resection without post-operative chest drain: an observational study. Gen Thorac Cardiovasc Surg. 2016 Oct;64(10):612-7. doi: 10.1007/s11748-016-0692-6. Epub 2016 Aug 10.
- Results publication: PubMed 30233854Park JB, Hwang JJ, Lee WS, Kim YH, Lee SA. Postoperative chest tube placement after thoracoscopic wedge resection of lung for primary spontaneous pneumothorax: is it mandatory? J Thorac Dis. 2018 Aug;10(8):4812-4818. doi: 10.21037/jtd.2018.07.13.
- Results publication: PubMed 31843633Liao HC, Yang SM, Hung MH, Cheng YJ, Hsu HH, Chen JS. Thoracoscopic Surgery Without Drainage Tube Placement for Peripheral Lung Nodules. Ann Thorac Surg. 2020 Mar;109(3):887-893. doi: 10.1016/j.athoracsur.2019.10.048. Epub 2019 Dec 13.
- Individual participant dataSharing planned: Yes. All IPD that underlie results in a publication are planned to share to other researchers if they connect with the corresponding author of the publication.
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Referral and contact
AzTrials does not enrol participants or take referrals. Contact the study team or a site listed below; they decide who can take part. This study is not recruiting at the moment.
René H Petersen, MD, PhD study chair
Copenhagen University Hospital, Rigshospitalet
Thomas D Christensen, MD, PhD study director
Aarhus University Hospital
Bo L Holbek, MD, PhD principal investigator
Copenhagen University Hospital, Rigshospitalet
2 sites in 1 country: see every site and its status.
Questions about this trial
What is this clinical trial studying?
A study testing Intraoperative air leak test, Intraoperative chest drain removal and Standard chest drain placement in people with Lung Neoplasms and Lung Surgery, run by Copenhagen University Hospital, Rigshospitalet at 2 sites in Denmark.
The full registered description is in the About this study section and the official record.
Who may be eligible to take part?
The sponsor lists 6 inclusion and 3 exclusion criteria. Eligibility is decided by the study team after screening, so read the full criteria and contact a listed site.
Is this clinical trial currently recruiting?
The record says: finished, as of the sponsor's last update on 20 Mar 2024. Status can change between updates, so confirm with the study contact before making plans.
Where is the study taking place?
The record lists 2 sites in Denmark. Whether a site is taking part right now should be confirmed with that site. See every site.
What are the possible benefits and risks?
They depend on the study and the treatment, and no study can promise a benefit. The study team explains the known risks during informed consent, before anyone joins; the record itself does not list them.
Are results available for this study?
The study is completed, but results are not available in the source record. That does not mean the treatment did or did not work.
How can a doctor refer a patient or contact the research team?
The record lists no contact. The official record names the sponsor, who can be asked directly. AzTrials does not enrol participants or take referrals.
What does the primary outcome measure?
Acute Pain (time frame: Up to postoperative day 1). The study lists 2 primary outcomes in all. It is what the study was designed to measure, not a finding.
Where can I read the original study information?
On the ClinicalTrials.gov record for NCT05358158, which also lists 28 linked publications.
Does a listing mean the treatment is approved or proven to work?
No. A listing means the study is registered. It does not show that the treatment is safe, works, or is approved by a regulator.
How often is this information updated?
AzTrials copies changed records from ClinicalTrials.gov every night and reloads the whole registry every week. The sponsor last updated this record on 20 Mar 2024.